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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    I'll try to give my PotV. Ever since Thatcher, our politics has largely been managerial, where the big political/economic questions have been deemed to be resolved. Within such managerial politics, minor differences are ramped up and casting a rival party in bad light is a primary way to elevate...
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Agree with this. Also worth adding that between them Elphicke and Poulter undermine two of Sunak's five pledges. Of the other three, it looks as though only one will be met and the control that the government have had over that is, at best, limited given that the role of controlling inflation is...
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    She was also elected as a constituency MP, and crossing the floor is one of the features of our constituency electoral system. I agree with you that lots about this is distasteful, including the crossing of the floor but, within the parameters of our representative system, I can't see what...
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Is it that you're advocating the expense and the commitment of a by-election? Or that the constituents of Dover are deprived of a representative?
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Think you'll find it's 38.
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    She's just come from the party that you hail from. We can engage in petty party political posturing, or we can try other approaches.
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Well, precisely. The default on here is that you can either have the right or the centre. The left are utterly verboten, to even conceive of it just illustrates that you haven't understood ... ... meanwhile, one of the two most impactful administrations of the 20C was of the left -- they had to...
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Labour and the Tories are opposites. Now that's a claim.
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    [Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

    Well, I'm not part of the (soon-to-be) royal 'we', but I can say: -- as others have pointed out, she and her views are loathsome ... -- ... despite this you can see why Starmer would welcome her crossing the House because it causes discomfort to the incumbents and cranks even further up the...
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