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It’s not his history that makes him feel like a flop , so much as the standard of his performances relative to how much he is reportedly paid. You are right that if he was an ex academy player his contribution would be considered ok. I guess it comes down to what factors you use to assess if...

We were both excited by his signing. We both acknowledge his form earlier in his career. We are both , broadly speaking, underwhelmed by his loan spell. We both hope he ends his loan spell on a high. We are both open to the idea of him returning. We disagree on where his career most likely...

If salary could be agreed how much would you pay for him? £30m still feels like a lot but appreciate anything less is unrealistic. Difficult one . It’s hard to know what quality of player you are buying

I said happy to sign him if the money was right . I think he’d be worth an affordable punt but not too keen on activating his release clause. . If he restablishes himself as a top player good for him . Beyond his loan spell with us I don’t really care how his career pans out. While he is with...

If Barca dont play him that salary could be his undoing. Other clubs may not watch to match it so he would be looking at a succession of loans. I watched him closely on Thursday and Sunday and he looked lost. Still time for him to turn it around here. It doesn’t help him that our more mobile...

Re your points about fati’s background . Yep , aware of all of it . And not disputing any of it . I found that reply confusing more than anything . I’m not sure how it disproves my response to some other poster but there you go.

Because in your initial reply you asked why I would want us to permanently sign a player I’d written some unfavourable things about

That’s a hell of reply zeb and I enjoyed reading it. Forgive me not responding bit by bit. Re his future - Barca have form in getting through young talents . Remember that lad at stoke , bojan (?) ? He was the next big thing aged 17 . Now playing ….somewhere . Not saying I want that for...

If all things were equal you‘d have a point , but another 21 year old , say a graduate from the youth team, would be getting paid a tiny tiny fraction of what Fati reportedly is. That’s not Fati’s fault (he must have a good agent) but presumably when we agreed to pay him the amount we did...

Well , yes. But unlike a loan signing, a permanent signing is an investment. Anyway I’m not bashing the club for showing the ambition to sign someone who not that long ago was considered one of the brightest talents in world football. But it hasn’t proved to be a good signing. And I’m not...

Taking into account the reported wages/costs , minutes on pitch, and key contributions, please define good signing.

Pedro got flattering ratings as he got two goals. I’m sure Fati would have stuck those pens away too though. They were both crap, based on that game. Credit to Fati at the end for taking responsibility and coming deep to collect the ball and lead the attacks. That showed hunger, confidence...

His influence on transfers has grown with his profile . Which is inevitable and fine . Although there is an element of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it “ .

Dont be ridiculous. We would get Fati as part of his recovery from bad injuries. He is not the player he was Atm. Which is not the case with Mbappe. Exciting signing though, for sure, and a necessary one as Enciso is out.

It’s usually sold as a good thing when a journalist has reported on one particular club for a million years . It is not, at least not for readers. It means that journalist will have prioritised feathering their own nest and not upsetting the club, over finding exclusives or questioning the...