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nickbrighton

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Oh dear, what have you done Tony...​


this is similar to the "what have the Romans ever done for us?" question

lets see
State of the art training ground and acadamy, secured the build of the Amex, delivered Premier League football, delivered Premier league safety, delivered top half prem league , delivered Europa league football, , delivered one of the most well run clubs in WORLD football, overseen the most sustained succesful period in the clubs history

The fact that we are all very dissapointed with 11th place after reaching the last 16 of the Europa league despite having one of the worst injury hit seasons off all time shows me exactly what Tony has done- and its bloody marvellous.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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I’d back Tony to go full dictator mode and ban people who start these threads from the Amex.

Childish want-it-alls
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I think you’re confusing Bloom with PBOBE
 










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Krafty

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Super Steve Earle said:
Yes I know, another thread on the same subject.

My big fears are that we become a club with no aspirations beyond financial survival. Of course that is key to everything, but to take the fans along too there needs to be the optimism and hope of breaking out from Just wanting top 10, maybe having a Cup run, playing thrilling football and upsetting the Big Six natural order of things. Whenever we tick one off the list they become something the fans believe can happen.

RDZ leaving may be the next progression for a brilliantly managed club, swinging the axe before poor results become entrenched and the relegation trapdoor beckons next season. But is Lallana leaving an unforeseen consequence that is hard to replace. Likewise, will Gross see his Player of the Season awards and the Euros as reaching his career peak over here and RDZ leaving as the trigger to go. The tears on the pitch on Sunday from the stands and the pitch, the outpouring of emotion, the singing for RDZ to come back before he has gone, shows the massive personality gap that needs to be filled with someone the fans can get behind. Ok, Fati didn't work, but anyone who knew his talent would have taken that risk. Dahoud maybe less so. I like Igor, but acknowledge he was outside the club mould and will just depreciate, so needs to stay, perform and be that younger/older head for a few years. I fear the starlets who might have loved and stayed a bit to learn from RDZ will need a helluva replacement to stick with us. In Tony we trust, because even when he got it wrong with Sami, he turned it round. But sometimes trust gets tested and I just feel sad and flat at the moment. I'm also not entirely sure that Barber will be fully on board judging by his comments and demeanour with RDZ at the fan forum. But of course, he will be professional and get on with his job.
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In my opinion, this seems to be a massive overreaction. I feel like it was the right time for change, you could see that De Zerbi was becoming more discontent at Brighton.

I love De Zerbi but I don’t think his departure will significantly affect our performances. It is all about bringing in the right coach which I fully trust Tony Bloom to do so.

Top ten, cup run, etc. would be great achievements for the Albion but not reaching those aims does not mean the season is a failure.
 


JBizzle

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Justice said:
Anyone who cried at a manager leaving is a clown, I was delighted when that boring Twat pissed off for a glow over. Two months into next season we do well a big club doesn’t RDZ isn’t hanging around (if he had stayed)
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Yes, but based on your posts on here you neither like nor care about anyone at the club anyway so why would you be bothered if anyone leaves? About 95% of your posts are critical of someone, it's just a lottery as to who the long arm of Justice comes for after any given game.
 


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Also, whilst RDZ was my favourite BHA coach so far, he had a few surprising blind spots. Either he was being petulant in the way he played when our wingers weren't available or he simply didn't have playing narrow, direct and central in his playbook of experience. Sure it was no surprise we struggled without those players, but a bit surprised our creativity struggled so much. A seasoned coach has to make something out of those moments regardless of the depth of squad. We'd have forgiven him for going full Dyche in a couple of those fixtures.
 




dazzer6666

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Jesus Christ. Bloom has always said his aspiration for the club was to be a consistent top 10 finisher in the Premier League. We all thought that was ridiculous when he first said it, and now you're feeling flat because you think we should be more than that!? We haven't even achieved that yet!

We will go into next season with so much hope. A new manager, some unbelievably exciting young players, the best Chairman in the league, and a chance at having a crack at European qualification again. The future is so bright, I genuinely cannot understand how so many people can't see it. Cheer up man!
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All of this
 


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Machiavelli

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Super Steve Earle said:
Yes I know, another thread on the same subject.

My big fears are that we become a club with no aspirations beyond financial survival. Of course that is key to everything, but to take the fans along too there needs to be the optimism and hope of breaking out from Just wanting top 10, maybe having a Cup run, playing thrilling football and upsetting the Big Six natural order of things. Whenever we tick one off the list they become something the fans believe can happen.

RDZ leaving may be the next progression for a brilliantly managed club, swinging the axe before poor results become entrenched and the relegation trapdoor beckons next season. But is Lallana leaving an unforeseen consequence that is hard to replace. Likewise, will Gross see his Player of the Season awards and the Euros as reaching his career peak over here and RDZ leaving as the trigger to go. The tears on the pitch on Sunday from the stands and the pitch, the outpouring of emotion, the singing for RDZ to come back before he has gone, shows the massive personality gap that needs to be filled with someone the fans can get behind. Ok, Fati didn't work, but anyone who knew his talent would have taken that risk. Dahoud maybe less so. I like Igor, but acknowledge he was outside the club mould and will just depreciate, so needs to stay, perform and be that younger/older head for a few years. I fear the starlets who might have loved and stayed a bit to learn from RDZ will need a helluva replacement to stick with us. In Tony we trust, because even when he got it wrong with Sami, he turned it round. But sometimes trust gets tested and I just feel sad and flat at the moment. I'm also not entirely sure that Barber will be fully on board judging by his comments and demeanour with RDZ at the fan forum. But of course, he will be professional and get on with his job.
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I'm glad your getting pelters for starting this thread and, as @Herr Tubthumper says, why not post this in another thread like the one questioning whether Tony warrants trust, because your trust (in what precisely?) is what you're ultimately raising on this thread.
I'll try and go easy for all those that share your views on this, but maybe have a look at the outstanding post by @Kalimantan Gull about floors and ceilings (see below), and also recognise that we're competing against petrostates, etc

www.northstandchat.com

Brighton are Raising their Floor, not going Backwards - The Daily Seagull

Brighton & Hove Albin have not gone backwards in the 2023/24 campaign, but have raised the floor of what is possible in the future.
www.northstandchat.com www.northstandchat.com
 


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nickbrighton

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Titanic said:
As posted on the other similar threads, 6 points from the last 10 games is relegation form.
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yes it is, but 49 from 38 isnt, it isnt even close to it. Does anyone truly think that the final third of the seasons form is truly indicative of the relegation prospects for next season? There are numerous reasons for being positive about next season,very few for being negative. I choose to view the season as an overall success, with a dissapointing end and am looking forward to next season.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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nickbrighton said:
yes it is, but 49 from 38 isnt, it isnt even close to it. Does anyone truly think that the final third of the seasons form is truly indicative of the relegation prospects for next season? There are numerous reasons for being positive about next season,very few for being negative. I choose to view the season as an overall success, with a dissapointing end and am looking forward to next season.
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This summer's transfer window will be more important than most. Any further net loss of talent will be indicative of which way the wind is blowing
 


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Krafty

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nickbrighton said:
yes it is, but 49 from 38 isnt, it isnt even close to it. Does anyone truly think that the final third of the seasons form is truly indicative of the relegation prospects for next season? There are numerous reasons for being positive about next season,very few for being negative. I choose to view the season as an overall success, with a dissapointing end and am looking forward to next season.
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That is your view, but I think there is a right for concern amongst supporters. We have performed poorly in our recent games, on par with some relegation outfits. Plus, we cannot seem to score more than one goal and defensively we aren’t that good either.

I don’t think we will get relegated next season but the possibility is certainly there. Let’s hope that the next manager can turn things around.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Whilst I am shocked and saddened by the news, it has been handled perfectly.

Clearly a deadline was set to finalise next season's preparations.
Both sides were unable to agree.
Both sides shook hands and walked away.

This time we were given the chance to say goodbye to one of our great managers .
 


Uh_huh_him

Uh_huh_him

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Krafty said:
That is your view, but I think there is a right for concern amongst supporters. We have performed poorly in our recent games, on par with some relegation outfits. Plus, we cannot seem to score more than one goal and defensively we aren’t that good either.

I don’t think we will get relegated next season but the possibility is certainly there. Let’s hope that the next manager can turn things around.
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We have been lacking pace in key areas.

Moder and Baleba will be key players for us next season.
 








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nickbrighton

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Krafty said:
That is your view, but I think there is a right for concern amongst supporters. We have performed poorly in our recent games, on par with some relegation outfits. Plus, we cannot seem to score more than one goal and defensively we aren’t that good either.

I don’t think we will get relegated next season but the possibility is certainly there. Let’s hope that the next manager can turn things around.
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There was definitley cause for concern, and as a result of that concern RDZ is no longer at the club. No one is denying we have finished poorly, despite the injuries I would agree we should have been able to get some(even lots) more points. Surley though-Thats the point- TB has seen that there is an issue and taken the action required.

Realistically the threat of relegation hangs over all but 7 or 8 clubs, the way to avoid relegation is either just throw huge amounts of money into it, or stick to the plan that has already delivered so much. TB doesnt have the kind of money to buy sucess in the way Man City and others have so hes doing what he has for the past decade. That is why im looking forward wiuth anticipation, not trepidation.
 


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Super Steve Earle said:
Yes I know, another thread on the same subject.

My big fears are that we become a club with no aspirations beyond financial survival. Of course that is key to everything, but to take the fans along too there needs to be the optimism and hope of breaking out from Just wanting top 10, maybe having a Cup run, playing thrilling football and upsetting the Big Six natural order of things. Whenever we tick one off the list they become something the fans believe can happen.

RDZ leaving may be the next progression for a brilliantly managed club, swinging the axe before poor results become entrenched and the relegation trapdoor beckons next season. But is Lallana leaving an unforeseen consequence that is hard to replace. Likewise, will Gross see his Player of the Season awards and the Euros as reaching his career peak over here and RDZ leaving as the trigger to go. The tears on the pitch on Sunday from the stands and the pitch, the outpouring of emotion, the singing for RDZ to come back before he has gone, shows the massive personality gap that needs to be filled with someone the fans can get behind. Ok, Fati didn't work, but anyone who knew his talent would have taken that risk. Dahoud maybe less so. I like Igor, but acknowledge he was outside the club mould and will just depreciate, so needs to stay, perform and be that younger/older head for a few years. I fear the starlets who might have loved and stayed a bit to learn from RDZ will need a helluva replacement to stick with us. In Tony we trust, because even when he got it wrong with Sami, he turned it round. But sometimes trust gets tested and I just feel sad and flat at the moment. I'm also not entirely sure that Barber will be fully on board judging by his comments and demeanour with RDZ at the fan forum. But of course, he will be professional and get on with his job.
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what a load of old tosh.
 


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