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[Football] Union Saint-Gilloise



Rodney Thomas

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May 2, 2012
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Ελλάδα
0-1 to Club Brugge who win the title, barring a massive goal difference swing. Not been a great day, football-wise.
I think it would go down to how it was rounded up or down rather than goal difference. If Brugge and Union are tied I think Union pip them. So still all to play for.
 






Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,281
OK, that's good news. I thought it was over but had a vague feeling it was more complicated than just GD😀

The first tie break for teams level at the end of he playoffs is removal of rounds up points. The second is regular season finishing position, goal difference doesn’t come into it.

If USG and Club Bruges finish level on points then USG will be champions as Bruges have half a point added to their total at the start of the playoffs (when regular season points are halved).
 


Slum_Wolf

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May 3, 2021
606
Need Union to beat Genk and Club Brugge to lose (at home in their shared ground) to Cercle Brugge...anything else happens Union can't do it...
 


Slum_Wolf

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May 3, 2021
606
Last game. Would be amazed if Club Brugge don't win the league today as a draw is enough but Cercle and Genk both have the chance of a European play-off so still plenty to play for.

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Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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It would be typical USG for Cercle to win and USG to blow a winning lead in the last 15 minutes.
 


Joe Punter

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Jan 31, 2012
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Phoenix Brewery
The 11-time Belgian champions Union St. Gilloise has not won the title in nearly 90 years. Being pipped by Clun Brugge a year ago, Karel Geraerts' men still have an excellent chance at finishing the season on top.

For them to clinch the title, a victory at home against Club Brugge would need to be combined with Antwerp dropping points. That is the only scenario that would see them win the title.

A win sold clinch a spot in the Champions League qualifying for the second year running. If Antwerp also wins, the capital club will finish the season in second. Second spot will also be theirs if Genk loses or if both games are drawn.

To lose out on UCL football, Union would have to lose to Club, while Genk avoids defeat. In that case, Union would enter the playoff round of the Europa League.
 














Swegulls

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Aug 29, 2023
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Stockholm
I don't like those play-offs, we had it in Sweden in the 80's. "My" Malmö where top of the table five years in a row then, under Hodgson, but only won the play-off twice.
 








One Teddy Maybank

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If effect, USG have suffered a large points deduction this season. Not for FFP reasons or cheating, just for being too good.

It’s really no surprise that they fail to respond positively to this sanction year after year after year.
It’s a stupid system IMO.
Nobody is arguing at Leeds' six point deduction "for being too good" compared to Southampton.
But do you not think it’s a bit different being the best team over a regular season, rather than getting to and winning the play-offs?

Of course as it’s Leeds it’s different…. 😉
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,342
Surrey
It’s a stupid system IMO.

But do you not think it’s a bit different being the best team over a regular season, rather than getting to and winning the play-offs?

Of course as it’s Leeds it’s different…. 😉
No. Leeds were miles better than Saints, so where's the justice there? Well as with Belgium, all teams know the rules before the season starts.

To be fair, I don't dislike the Belgian play off system. I think it's quite innovative. I mean yes, USG have arguably been robbed, but they've lost the games that matter in the final six. Them's the breaks.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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No. Leeds were miles better than Saints, so where's the justice there? Well as with Belgium, all teams know the rules before the season starts.

To be fair, I don't dislike the Belgian play off system. I think it's quite innovative. I mean yes, USG have arguably been robbed, but they've lost the games that matter in the final six. Them's the breaks.
See, the only bit I agree with is that every knows the rules at the start

If you play every team home and away and are the best team over ?38 games, surely by being the best you are the champions. To then belittle everything that’s gone on before, is just wrong in my mind.

Were Leeds miles better?
I only watched the first half and thought Southampton were better. Over the season there was only 3 points between them anyway….
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,342
Surrey
See, the only bit I agree with is that every knows the rules at the start

If you play every team home and away and are the best team over ?38 games, surely by being the best you are the champions. To then belittle everything that’s gone on before, is just wrong in my mind.

Were Leeds miles better?
I only watched the first half and thought Southampton were better. Over the season there was only 3 points between them anyway….
But you can't be in favour of any sort of play off system if you want it all decided on the end of season table really.

I think the playoffs in any league are a way of keeping meaningless games to a minimum. A necessary evil in the professional era. At least there is some merit in the Belgian play off system. I just it doesn't sit well with some here because it decides the actual champions, but Belgian football probably needs that more than our top league to be fair.
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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usg 2-0 up 90+1. scorelss in bruges 87m.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Manchester
See, the only bit I agree with is that every knows the rules at the start

If you play every team home and away and are the best team over ?38 games, surely by being the best you are the champions. To then belittle everything that’s gone on before, is just wrong in my mind.

Were Leeds miles better?
I only watched the first half and thought Southampton were better. Over the season there was only 3 points between them anyway….
By your reckoning, Leeds were the 3rd best team in the Championship, which would surely mean that they should be one of the three teams promoted to the Premier League*. At least with the Belgium system, there is an advantage to finishing with the most points, unlike our play-offs, and it means that all games count right to the last day.

*But it's Leeds, so it's not unfair; it's just LOLs.
 


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